209: Phesto Dee of Souls of Mischief talks his career, innovation in music, social issues facing America, police brutality, the banking system, and more!

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Phesto Dee, a member of one of the most respected and revered hip-hop groups of all-time, Souls of Mischief, joins Guy Evans for Episode 209 of SLHS.

In the first half of the interview, we discuss Phesto’s career, his experiences navigating the murky world of music industry politics, and his thoughts on originality and creativity in the genre of hip-hop.

Later we get into some broader topics of discussion including the social problems facing America today, police brutality, and the global banking system. Enjoy!



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Phesto Dee Quotables:

“When they talk about the 1% versus the 99%, and the top 1% making more than the bottom 50% of the population in the world…[international bankers] are ultimately who they’re talking about. It’s not just these Wall Street executives, or Goldman Sachs or those people…it goes a step further than that.”

“The goal of these record labels is flat-out to make money. They’re not trying to re-invent the wheel with music, they’re not trying to put out great albums that rival the great music of yesteryear. That’s why you have a lot of bottomless music that’s out there – it doesn’t have any substance or style to it. It’s all recycled, but the ultimate goal is not to make great music. The ultimate goal is to make money, unfortunately.”

“The essence of hip-hop is underground music. It’s not meant to be this big, huge, corporate thing – even though it became that. But that’s not what we originally set out to be.”

“If you’re just watching from afar, you see [artists with] fancy cars, [big] houses. They don’t know that this stuff is [often] rented and leased for the video, just to create this image that these people are having all of this success.”

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